In this sample from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down the news that two aides to former Vice President Mike Pence, former chief of staff Marc Short and former chief counsel Greg Jacob, testified before a federal grand jury in the January 6th investigation. Does this indicate that the investigation is progressing? And has the investigation expanded to include former President Donald Trump?

In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss: 

• The January 6th Committee’s eighth public hearing, which focused on then-President Donald Trump’s 187 minutes of inaction while the Capitol was under attack;
• The investigation into the missing Secret Service text messages from January 5th and 6th, 2021; and
• Steve Bannon’s conviction on two counts of contempt of Congress for defying a January 6th Committee subpoena.

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Tamara Sepper – Executive Producer; Jake Kaplan – Editorial Producer; Nat Weiner – Audio Producer

REFERENCES & SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS: 

18 U.S. Code §1512 – Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant

“Top Pence Aides Testify to Grand Jury in Jan. 6 Investigation,” NYT, 7/25/22