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Preet and Joyce speak with Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic magazine, in front of a live audience at the Texas Tribune Festival in Austin, Texas. 

Goldberg discusses his new book, On Heroism: McCain, Milley, Mattis, and the Cowardice of Donald Trump, which includes his reporting on Republican leaders and top White House officials who stood up to Trump while he was president, as well as Trump’s controversial statements reportedly calling members of the military “suckers” and “losers.” Goldberg also speaks about the media’s approach to covering Trump and the presidential election, and what a second Trump term might look like.

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Preet Bharara:

Hey, Insiders. This week’s episode of the podcast was recorded over the weekend in front of a live audience at the Texas Tribune Festival in Austin, Texas. Joyce and I interviewed the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic Magazine, Jeffrey Goldberg. We spoke about his new book On Heroism: McCain, Milley, Mattis, and the Cowardice of Donald Trump. The book includes his reporting on top officials who stood up to Trump while he was president. As well as Trump’s controversial statements reportedly calling members of the military “suckers” and “losers.” We also spoke about the media’s approach to covering Trump in the presidential election in what a second Trump term might look like. Our full conversation is exclusively for you members of the CAFE Insider community. Thank you for supporting our work. Now, onto the show.

 

It’s great to have you both here. Before we begin with the conversation fully, if you’ve been listening to the podcast in recent times, you know I have a small housekeeping matter that I take care of at the beginning of every week in recent times. And that is to ask Joyce Vance on the record, Joyce Vance, are you any relation to JD Vance?