Can we truly defeat terrorism or does the ideology always endure? Philip Mudd, a former CIA and FBI official, has spent his career working on counterterrorism efforts. He talks about the public perception of terrorism and the oversimplification of motives by the media, the distinction between eliminating a terror group’s leadership and combating its ideology, and extremism in the US military. Plus, how experts like him analyze attacks in real-time.

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Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; Producer: Noa Azulai; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; CAFE Team: Claudia Hernández, Jake Kaplan, Matthew Billy, Nat Weiner, and Liana Greenway.