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In this special episode of the CAFE Insider podcast, former Acting U.S. Deputy Attorney General John Carlin interviews Chris Inglis, while Preet and Joyce are out. Inglis recently served as the first U.S. National Cyber Director, in which role he advised President Biden on cybersecurity issues and helped develop a national cyber strategy. Before that, Inglis served as Deputy Director of the National Security Agency.

In the interview, Inglis discusses the risks artificial intelligence poses for national security, including:  

Inglis also breaks down the job of the National Cyber Director and the Biden administration’s cyber strategy.

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John Carlin:

Hey, Insiders, John Carlin here. I recently served as the number two at the Justice Department. Before I took on that position, I hosted CAFE’s Cyberspace podcast. This week, I’m excited to fill in for Preet and Joyce on the CAFE Insider podcast. Joining me is Chris Inglis. Chris recently served as the first U.S. National Cyber Director, a position he helped envision and create. In that role, he advised the president on cybersecurity issues and helped the administration develop its first national cybersecurity strategy. Before that, Chris served in many positions throughout government, including as deputy director of the National Security Agency under two presidents. Chris and I discussed the national security implications of artificial intelligence, the lessons learned from recent cyberattacks and the responsibilities of the national cyber director.

Now here’s my conversation with Chris Inglis. Chris, welcome back to the podcast. When I last talked to you, you were coming off something called the Solarium Commission, and you had come up with this idea in that service of a national cyber director, a lead position in government that would be senate confirmed to guide all the efforts of the different departments and agency. Then it seems like you pulled some type of Dick Cheney move after that and became the first ever national cyber director going through the Senate confirmation process. Having recently left, do you regret having suggested that position?

Chris Inglis: