Does human nature push us towards democracy or autocracy? Renowned political scientist Francis Fukuyama, author of The End of History and The Last Man, joins Preet to discuss attacks on the civil service, the crisis of trust in America, and where history is now headed.
Then, Preet answers questions about the iconic “Princess Bride,” his transition from the U.S. Attorneys Office to the Senate Judiciary Committee, and whether we’re in the midst of a constitutional crisis.
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REFERENCES AND SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS
THE INTERVIEW:
- Francis Fukuyama, The End of History and the Last Man, 1992
- “Schedule F Is Here,” Persuasion, 2/3/25
- “The Crisis of Trust,” Persuasion, 10/18/25
Q&A:
- Ben Wikler & Preet Bharara, “2024 Election Battlegrounds,” CAFE, 10/17/24