How can we protect our democracy from President Trump’s overreach? Joyce Vance is a former U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, a law professor at the University of Alabama, author of the popular Substack newsletter Civil Discourse, co-host of the #SistersInLaw podcast, and Preet Bharara’s co-host on the CAFE Insider podcast. Now, she’s a published author. She joined Preet for a live conversation organized by the 92nd Street Y to discuss her new book, Giving Up Is Unforgivable: A Manual for Keeping a Democracy. 

Then, Preet answers your questions about George Santos’s pardon and the U.S. military attacks on ships in the Caribbean.

In the bonus for Insiders, Joyce answers questions from the live audience.

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REFERENCES & SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS: 

• Joyce Vance, “Giving Up Is Unforgivable: A Manual for Keeping a Democracy,” Dutton, 10/21/25