What happens if the Trump administration defies court orders? Dahlia Lithwick, a Supreme Court expert and host of Amicus, joins Preet to discuss the fragility of the American legal system, and, from the Abrego Garcia case to Harvard, what to do when executive power gets out of control.
Plus, Preet answers questions about why the Trump administration is listing living people as deceased, whether Harvard should revoke degrees from graduates who served in Trump’s White House, and, of course, grammar.
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Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Editorial Producer: Noa Azulai; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio Producers: Matthew Billy and Nat Weiner.
REFERENCES & SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS:
INTERVIEW:
- Lithwick’s podcast, Amicus
- Supreme Court order in A.A.R.P v. Trump, 4/19/25
- The White House’s X post about Abrego Garcia’s tattoo’s, 4/19/25
Q&A:
- “Trump administration overrode Social Security staff to list immigrants as dead,” WaPo, 4/12/2025
- “Meet the Harvard Alums Donald Trump Nominated To Serve in His Cabinet,” Harvard Crimson, 11/18/2024
