• Show Notes

In this special episode of the CAFE Insider podcast, former Acting U.S. Deputy Attorney General John Carlin interviews Chris Inglis, while Preet and Joyce are out. Inglis recently served as the first U.S. National Cyber Director, in which role he advised President Biden on cybersecurity issues and helped develop a national cyber strategy. Before that, Inglis served as Deputy Director of the National Security Agency.

In this excerpt from the interview, Inglis discusses the risks artificial intelligence poses for national security, including:  

  • The “black box problem” of AI algorithms;
  • The use of AI in cyberattacks; 
  • The AI arms race among United States, China, and Russia; and
  • The potential use of generative AI to spread misinformation ahead of the 2024 election.

In the full interview, Inglis breaks down the job of the National Cyber Director and the Biden administration’s cyber strategy.

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“FACT SHEET: Biden-⁠Harris Administration Takes New Steps to Advance Responsible Artificial Intelligence Research, Development, and Deployment,” Biden Administration, 5/23/23

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CAFE Insider 5/30: AI & National Security (with John Carlin & Chris Inglis)