• Show Notes

Elie Honig is joined by University of Alabama Law School student Kyra Perkins. They break down New York Attorney General Letitia James’ announcement that her office will pursue a criminal—not just civil—investigation into the Trump Organization. They also discuss what it means to conduct a fair investigation, and the political sensitivities involved with an announcement like this one. 

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Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producers: Sam Ozer-Staton and Noa Azulai. 


  • Shayna Jacobs and David A. Fahrenthold, “Investigation of Trump Organization now exploring possible criminal conduct, N.Y. attorney general’s office says,” Washington Post, 5/19/2020
  • Donald Trump’s statement on the investigation by the NY Attorney General, 5/19/2021