• Show Notes

In this sample from the United Security podcast, Jim Clapper, former Director of National Intelligence, speaks with host Ken Wainstein about his experiences as a top intelligence official in South Korea during the 1970s and 1980s. 

In the full episode, Director Clapper takes Ken on a panorama of American intelligence successes and failures, touching on the Vietnam War, the Soviet Union, the Gulf War, and the Iraq War. Along the way, Clapper offers novel observations on the state of geopolitics and American institutions.

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  • Jim Clapper, “Ending the Dead End in North Korea,” New York Times, 5/19/2018
  • Kelsey Davenport, “Chronology of Libya’s Disarmament and Relations with the United States,” Arms Control Association, 1/2018
  • Connor O’Brien, “Clapper: North Korean leader ‘may have met his match’ in Trump,” Politico, 5/27/2018
  • Jim Clapper, “James Clapper: Kim Jong Un Is a God in North Korea,” The Daily Beast, 6/1/2018
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