John Carlin:

From CAFE, welcome to Cyber Space. I’m your host, John Carlin. Every other Friday, I explore issues of the intersection of tech, law, and policy with guests who’ve made an impact in the world of cybersecurity. My guest this week is Chris Inglis. He’s the former Deputy Director of the National Security Agency where he was the highest-ranking civilian leader until his retirement in 2013. Chris helped transform the NSA into an organization equipped to defend and respond to the increasing threat of cyber warfare. He’s recognized throughout the world as one of the leading experts on cyber defense. He’s also a leader on the Cyberspace Solarium Commission. That group was tasked by Congress with developing a cohesive national strategy to defend against significant cyber-attacks against the United States. In March, the Solarium Commission published a report with over 80 recommendations to improve the nation’s cybersecurity. Chris Inglis, welcome.

John Carlin:

Chris, before we dive in too deeply, I want to get a sense from your perspective, what do you see as the real-life stakes if we don’t get better in terms of our cyber strategy and soon?