• Show Notes

In this episode of Cyber Space, John Carlin is joined by Jeanette Manfra, the former assistant director for cybersecurity at the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA). They discuss Manfra’s time serving in Iraq, how she got into cybersecurity, and her new role as Director of Government Security and Compliance at Google Cloud.  

Cyber Space is the newest podcast for members of CAFE Insider. Every other Friday, John Carlin, who led the Justice Department’s National Security Division, explores issues at the intersection of technology, policy, and law with leaders who’ve made an impact in the world of cybersecurity. 

Cyber Space is produced by CAFE Studios. 

Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producers: Noa Azulai, David Kurlander, Sam Ozer-Staton. 

Cyber Space is produced in association with Brooklyn Law School’s BLIP clinic. Special thanks to Amanda Kadish, Isabel Agosto, Jaqueline Green and Motty Rivkin.



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